Methodology - am i on the right track

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Methodology - am i on the right track

Post by David Brister on Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:01 pm

I wanted to post how i come to my set up after the 1st practice session at Baucharest, and to get some feed back please from you more experienced guys to see if im thinking along the correct lines for the game.

Downforce: Low - so wings started at 250
Overtaking: Easy - long straights so Engine 800 and gear 750, for higher speeds
Suspension rigidity: Hard - Suspension high 750
and just put brake bias mid way 500


Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
1 1:26.458s 0.456s 1:26.002s 250 250 800 500  750 750

drivers feed back was

Wings: I am missing a bit of grip in the curves
Engine: The engine revs are too high
Brakes: I think the brakes effectiveness could be higher if we move the balance to the front
Gear: Please put a lot lower ratio between the gears
Suspension: I think with a bit more rigid suspension I will be able to go faster

My actions from above +100 wings, +150 brakes, -100 gear, +100 susp

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
2 1:25.773s 0.325s 1:25.448s 350 350 700 650 650 850

Driver feed back was

Brakes: I would like to have the balance a bit more to the front
Gear: The gear ratio is too high

So i did +50 brakes, -50 gear also added +50 to rear wing to see if any different

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
3 1:25.919s 0.532s 1:25.387s 300 400 700 700 600 850

Driver feed back on lap 3 was

Gear: The gear ratio is too high

So i dropped -50 of gear and returned rear wing to 300, for a faster net time

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
4 1:25.396s 0.020s 1:25.376s 300 300 700 700 550 850

Driver feed back on lap 4 was

Wings: I am missing a bit of grip in the curves
Gear: I cannot take advantage of the power of the engine. Put the gear ratio a bit lower

So i +30 to wings after checking my wing split graph, -50 gear

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
5 1:27.005s 1.704s 1:25.301s 330 330 700 700 500 850

Driver feed back on lap 5

Gear: I cannot take advantage of the power of the engine. Put the gear ratio a bit lower
i now had 4 different lap times with my wings and looking at the wing split graph 320 looked to be the lowest point so i did lap 6 with wings at 320





Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
6 1:26.041s 0.755s 1:25.286s 320 320 700 700 450 850

Drivers Feedback on lap 6 was

I am satisfied with the setup of the car

At this point i looked at my Drivers Happy Zone - which is 65.7

so now i looked to move Engine, Brakes and Suspension  as they had not been mentions by the drvier and moved them by 30 almost 1/2 of the happy zone.

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
7 1:26.417s 1.118s 1:25.299s 320 320 730 730 450 880

Driver Feedback was

Engine: Try to favor a bit more the low revs
Suspension: The car is too rigid. Lower a bit the rigidity

So i went back to my lap 6 figures for Engine and suspension and took 30 of since by adding we had left the happy zone.

Lap Lap time D-mistake Net time FWing RWing Engine Brakes Gear Susp
8 1:26.644s 1.388s 1:25.256s 320 320 670 730 450 820

Drivers feedback was

I am satisfied with the setup of the car

While lap 8 wasnt the fastest due to driver error, the NET lap time was.

I know its a long winded post, but would really appreciate it if some one could look over it and give some feed back.

I was also hoping that such a post if deemed correct in its methodology would be a handy guide for new players to see the process of setting up a car.
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Re: Methodology - am i on the right track

Post by David Brister on Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:06 pm

Question now is from the Wing graph figures - Do i split the wings and if so by how much please? as the figures i used were the actual numbers.
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Re: Methodology - am i on the right track

Post by Gary Greenwood on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:09 pm

Ok, firstly you are definitely on the right track.

You are listening to the driver correctly, but what you need to do in these early stages is always keep both front and rear wings on the same number ( even split). Only once you have worked out your ideal parts setup at an even split can you play around with wing splits to see what your ideal wing split will be.

To work out your optimal wingsplit using the above graph - all other parts values must stay the same for all three laps. Otherwise, you may be moving your gearbox closer to ideal setting and gaining .5 of a second and moving your wing split the wrong way and losing .2 of a second, but it appears you are 0.3 seconds faster. There is no way of knowing which change caused which effect.


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Post by Gary Greenwood on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Also, you are nearly there with working out optimal parts setup.

When you ( correctly) added 30 to a few of your parts using a happy zone of 65.7, and found some parts the driver wasn't happy - the next step would be to subtract 15 to see if they are back in the happy zone or still outside the happy zone.
By reducing the number by half every time, you will eventually find either the upper or lower limit of the Happy Zone from there finding the sweet spot in the middle of the Happy Zone is simple - its just half your happy zone away. Smile

I used to find the numbers 32 and 64 worked best as you can keep halving them easily all the way to 2... Smile

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Post by David Brister on Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:10 am

yer i never thought about the other parts gaining time while i might be losing it with the wings, at worst i think as long as the driver dont say hes unhappy with the wings then im within that happy zone is better then being out of it
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Post by Gary Greenwood on Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:19 am

The thing with wing splits is - You have to work out the sweet spot first.
Once you have worked out your sweet spot, for example - Front wing 444 and rear wing 444, that totals 888, so no matter what your split - as long as your wings total 888 your driver will be happy. You can have a front wing of 1 and a rear of 887 ( -443/ +443 split) he will still be happy. then you can compare your speed between the two laps and see which split is faster.

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